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. >> mark kelly, husband of gabrielle giffords. >> rights demand responsibility. first, fix gun background checks. >> it is not a serious solution for reducing crime. >> the nra is clearly, dramatically out of step. >> lapierre dismissed background checks. >> background checks will never be universal. >> you will never get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> because criminals will never submit to them. >> they will not go to purchase the guns because there will be a background check. >> you missed the point completely. and i think it is basic. >> senator, i think you -- >> let there be order. >> i think you're missing it. >> let there be more. >> if chairman patrick leahy pressed lapierre. >> if you're a dealer, that is already the law. >> please, mr. lapierre, i'm not trying to play games here, but if you could just answer the question. >> rights demand responsibility. law abiding gun owners will not accept blame. >> americans are looking to us for solutions and for action. >> this time must be different. >> the senate judiciary committee toda
. >> mark kelly, husband of gabrielle giffords. >> rights demand responsibility. first, fix gun background checks. >> it is not a serious solution for reducing crime. >> the nra is clearly, dramatically out of step. >> lapierre dismissed background checks. >> background checks will never be universal. >> you will never get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> because criminals will never submit to them. >> they will not go...
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giffords and her husband, former astronaut mark kelly have now launched their own campaign for tougher gun laws. capitalizing on the public outcry that followed december's mass shooting at an elementary school in newtown, connecticut. >> after 20 kids and six of their teachers were gunned down in their classrooms at sandy hook, we said, this time must be different. something needs to be done. we are simply two reasonable americans who have said enough. >> ifill: but at today's hearings, national rifle association vice president wayne lapierre pushed back insisting that the real solution to gun violence is to enforce existing laws. >> unfortunately, we've seen a dramatic collapse in federal gun prosecutions in recent years. overall in 2011, federal weapons prosecutions per capita were down 35% from their peak in the previous administration. that means violent felons, gang members and the mentally ill who possess firearms are not being prosecuted. and that's unacceptable. proposing more gun control laws, while failing to enforce the thousands we already have is not a serious solution to
giffords and her husband, former astronaut mark kelly have now launched their own campaign for tougher gun laws. capitalizing on the public outcry that followed december's mass shooting at an elementary school in newtown, connecticut. >> after 20 kids and six of their teachers were gunned down in their classrooms at sandy hook, we said, this time must be different. something needs to be done. we are simply two reasonable americans who have said enough. >> ifill: but at today's...
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but also james johnson, the chief of police of baltimore county, and captain mark kelly, astronaut, navy veteran, and the husband of congresswoman gabby giffords. gabby giffords, of course, was shot in the head by a mentally ill gunman in an assassination attempt in january 2011. today in an emotionally charged and at times contentious testimony, the most moving part of the day happen right at the very beginning with a surprise addition to the witness list as gabby giffords herself made her way down the aisle into the hearing room to deliver a short statement to the senators and the assembled media and the audience. this was a surprise today. it was clear that this was not something that was easy for her to do. >> okay. thank you for inviting me here today. this is an important conversation for our children, for our communities, for democrats and republicans. speaking is difficult, but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. it will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageou
but also james johnson, the chief of police of baltimore county, and captain mark kelly, astronaut, navy veteran, and the husband of congresswoman gabby giffords. gabby giffords, of course, was shot in the head by a mentally ill gunman in an assassination attempt in january 2011. today in an emotionally charged and at times contentious testimony, the most moving part of the day happen right at the very beginning with a surprise addition to the witness list as gabby giffords herself made her way...
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her gift of speech is a distant memory, said husband mark kelly. yet gabby giffords' halting words. >> too many children. >> reporter: here as a survivor of the tucson assassination attempt that left her partially blind and partially paralyzed. >> you must act. be bold, be courageous. >> reporter: giffords and kelly, both gun owners, want congress to expand background checks to gun shows and private sales to make it harder for criminals and the mentally ill to get weapons. >> my wife would not be sitting in this seat. she would not have been sitting here today, if we had stronger background checks. >> reporter: but this first hearing on guns since the newtown massacre had another center of gravity. the national rifle association's ceo, wayne lapierre. >> should we have mandatory background checks at gun shows? >> if you're a dealer, that's already the law. >> reporter: of all the gun-related ideas on the table, democrats believe universal background checks has the best chance politically. >> we'll stop them from the original purchase. you missed th
her gift of speech is a distant memory, said husband mark kelly. yet gabby giffords' halting words. >> too many children. >> reporter: here as a survivor of the tucson assassination attempt that left her partially blind and partially paralyzed. >> you must act. be bold, be courageous. >> reporter: giffords and kelly, both gun owners, want congress to expand background checks to gun shows and private sales to make it harder for criminals and the mentally ill to get...
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. >> giffords husband mark kelly says expanding background checks should be a top priority but the nra's chief executive yesterday refused to give any ground. >> we know from what happened in tucson that if there was an effective background check which includes having the mental health data and the person's drug use in the case of the tucson shooter into the system and if, in fact, there was no gun show loophole, i would contend he would have had a very difficult time getting a gun. if background checks are good enough for somebody who is a federal firearms licensed dealer like walmart, for instance where i just purchased a gun a couple months ago, a hunting rifle and i had to good through a background check, why isn't that good for other sales? >> my problem with background checks is you'll never get criminals to go through universal background checks. i mean, all the law abiding people. you'll create an enormous federal bureaucracy. >> we're not going to prosecute the bad guys if they do catch one. and none of it makes any sense in the real world. >> that's the point. the criminals won
. >> giffords husband mark kelly says expanding background checks should be a top priority but the nra's chief executive yesterday refused to give any ground. >> we know from what happened in tucson that if there was an effective background check which includes having the mental health data and the person's drug use in the case of the tucson shooter into the system and if, in fact, there was no gun show loophole, i would contend he would have had a very difficult time getting a gun....
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giffords' husband mark kelly cofounded the organization with her. he gave powerful testimony as well today. >> we believe wholly and completely in the second amendment and that it confers upon all americans the right to own a firearm for protection, collection, and recreation. we take that right very seriously, and we would never, ever give it up just like gabby would never relinquish her gun and i would never relinquish mine. but rights demand responsibility. and this right does not extend to terrorists. it does not extend to criminals. and it does not extend to the mentally ill. >> one more thing i want you to see. following this morning's testimony, gabby giffords and mark kelly met with president obama in the oval office. so david corn, i show you all that and i ask how can the momentum to the extent that momentum exists right now on the president and the white house side, how can it be maintained? how do you maintain that level of emotional testimony? >> well, it was quite an emotional moment watching gabby giffords get up there courageously an
giffords' husband mark kelly cofounded the organization with her. he gave powerful testimony as well today. >> we believe wholly and completely in the second amendment and that it confers upon all americans the right to own a firearm for protection, collection, and recreation. we take that right very seriously, and we would never, ever give it up just like gabby would never relinquish her gun and i would never relinquish mine. but rights demand responsibility. and this right does not...
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. >> at the same hearing giffords' husband mark kelly pushed forward requiring background checks but wayne la pea year of the national rifle association said criminals never submit to them. >> we're going to make all the law-abiding people go through the system and we're not going to prosecute any of the bad guys if we do catch one, and none of it makes any sense in the real world. >> requiring private sellers to require a background check before they transfer a gun is -- i mean for us, i can't think of something that would make our country safer than doing just that. >> during his testimony kelly made reference to another shooting in arizona. a gunman opened fire at a phoenix office yesterday. one person was killed. two others were wounded. and the gunman is on the run. >>> city officials in newtown, connecticut, where 26 people were shot dead at an elementary school are calling for tougher gun control measures. hundreds attend add hearing last night and randall pinkston reports. >> reporter: skyla lewis set the picture of her son jesse. he was among the 26 killed at sandy hook elem
. >> at the same hearing giffords' husband mark kelly pushed forward requiring background checks but wayne la pea year of the national rifle association said criminals never submit to them. >> we're going to make all the law-abiding people go through the system and we're not going to prosecute any of the bad guys if we do catch one, and none of it makes any sense in the real world. >> requiring private sellers to require a background check before they transfer a gun is -- i...
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following this morning's testimony, gabby giffords and mark kelly met with president obama in the oval office. so david corn, i show you all that and i ask how can the momentum to the extent that momentum exists right now on the president and the white house side, how can it be maintained? how do you maintain that level of emotional testimony? >> well, it was quite an emotional moment watching gabby giffords get up there courageously and her husband who i've met in the past i have to say is damn impressive. he was a hero for going up in the space shuttle and now he's a hero for taking on this hard issue and doing it with such great aplomb. it's important, keep him and gabby giffords and the kids in newtown, keep them in the spotlight. let them have the platform they want. the only way anything happens on the gun violence prevention front is if the intensity level remains on the side of people looking to change the status quo. you know, you know on the side of the nra and extremists on that side, there is already the intensity. it's always been there. they care about this. it's often th
following this morning's testimony, gabby giffords and mark kelly met with president obama in the oval office. so david corn, i show you all that and i ask how can the momentum to the extent that momentum exists right now on the president and the white house side, how can it be maintained? how do you maintain that level of emotional testimony? >> well, it was quite an emotional moment watching gabby giffords get up there courageously and her husband who i've met in the past i have to say...
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. >> reporter: and with that, giffords left, leaving her husband, mark kelly, to take on the national rifle association's wayne lapierre. kelly argued for better background checks for all gun sales. >> my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> my problem with background checks is you're never going to get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> reporter: and kelly said if the man who shot his wife had been limited to an ammunition clip with just ten bullets, a little girl killed that day might still be alive today. >> the first bullet went into gabby's head. bullet number 13 went into a 9-year-old girl named christina taylor green. >> reporter: lapierre said that new gun laws would only punish those who don't break the law. >> law-abiding gun owners will not accept blame for the acts of vie violent or deranged criminals. >> reporter: when it was over, kelly went over to shake lapierre's hand. the two had only agreed on one thing -- the need for stronger measures to keep guns out of the
. >> reporter: and with that, giffords left, leaving her husband, mark kelly, to take on the national rifle association's wayne lapierre. kelly argued for better background checks for all gun sales. >> my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> my problem with background checks is you're never going to get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> reporter: and kelly said if...
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giffords' husband, mark kelly, argued those restrictions would have lessened the carnage jared loughner could commit. >> in 15 seconds, he emptied his magazine. it contained 33 bullets, and there were 33 wounds. >> reporter: but gun rights advocate gail trotter argued one person's assault weapon is another's last line of defense. >> and the peace of mind that a woman has as she's facing three, four, five violent attackers intruders in her home with her children screaming in the background, the peace of mind that she has knowing that she has a scary-looking gun gives her more courage when she's fighting hardened, violent criminals. >> reporter: both sides agreed today the government need to crack down on straw purchasers people who buy guns for others who are often criminals. the chair of the senate judiciary committee, a democrat, says he plan to craft legislation that deals with some of these issues within the month. scott? >> pelley: and we should mention that jared loughner is serving multiple life terms now. nancy, thanks very much. the state of connecticut, where newtown is located
giffords' husband, mark kelly, argued those restrictions would have lessened the carnage jared loughner could commit. >> in 15 seconds, he emptied his magazine. it contained 33 bullets, and there were 33 wounds. >> reporter: but gun rights advocate gail trotter argued one person's assault weapon is another's last line of defense. >> and the peace of mind that a woman has as she's facing three, four, five violent attackers intruders in her home with her children screaming in...
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kelly. kelly said he and giffords represented millions of gun owners to support new restrictions in the aftermath of the sandy hook massacre. >> we are both gun owners and we take that right and responsibilities that come with it very seriously. we watched with horror when the news breaks to yet another tragic shooting. after 20 kids and six of their teachers were gunned down in their classrooms at sandy hook elementary, we said, "this time must be different. something needs to be done." we are simply two reasonable americans to of said, "enough." >> also testifying was the nra head wayne lapierre, who has vocally opposed any gun control measures, including the assault weapons ban. he sparred with senator dick durbin of illinois over the issue of whether background checks -- tighter background checks could to terror and violence. go,f it imillion if you let thm you're not preventing them from getting to the next crime scene. >> that is the point. the criminals will not go to purchase the gun
kelly. kelly said he and giffords represented millions of gun owners to support new restrictions in the aftermath of the sandy hook massacre. >> we are both gun owners and we take that right and responsibilities that come with it very seriously. we watched with horror when the news breaks to yet another tragic shooting. after 20 kids and six of their teachers were gunned down in their classrooms at sandy hook elementary, we said, "this time must be different. something needs to be...
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her husband, captain mark kelly, also testified. kelly's message, demanding change is not the same as taking away people's guns. >> we take that right very seriously, and we would never, ever give it up, just like gabby would never relinquish her gun, and i would never relinquish mine. but rights demand responsibility. >> giffords and kelly are pleading on behalf of common sense here. this is why gun safety opponents like the nra's wayne lapierre need to create multiple straw men instead of talking about the facts. the gun lobby will do anything to keep all guns free from restrictions. fewer restrictions means more sales, which means more money for gunmakers and manufacturers and guys like wayne lapierre. >> if you try to do this universal background check, which sounds whatever, it ends up being a universal federal nightmare imposed upon law abiding people all over this country. criminals will ignore it. so what is the point of the whole thing? >> this is lapierre's newest argument. a universal background check won't do anything, h
her husband, captain mark kelly, also testified. kelly's message, demanding change is not the same as taking away people's guns. >> we take that right very seriously, and we would never, ever give it up, just like gabby would never relinquish her gun, and i would never relinquish mine. but rights demand responsibility. >> giffords and kelly are pleading on behalf of common sense here. this is why gun safety opponents like the nra's wayne lapierre need to create multiple straw men...
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say if the guy that mark kelly talked about, he was a hair's breadth from shooting an innocent person. the fact is the guy held both of those people on the ground, the assailant and the innocent person, and kept him from reloading the glock with another 33-round clip. did that make a difference? host: diane is in julian, california, democrat. caller: how are you? i did not hear your question? host: we have been asking have your views changed? caller: the question is, it has strengthened my views on gun control. we know that the president is traveling to minnesota today, where they do have. i do not know all the laws in minnesota. i do have relatives there. the president's agenda is to strengthen the background checks, also, a ban on assault weapons, and improve the mental health care system. i have been in law enforcement many years. the men i have worked around, some have never had to use their service revolvers. we are in a different culture now, a different behavior, a different lifetime. i've been around where there have been gang members, hell's angels, you name it, we have it in
say if the guy that mark kelly talked about, he was a hair's breadth from shooting an innocent person. the fact is the guy held both of those people on the ground, the assailant and the innocent person, and kept him from reloading the glock with another 33-round clip. did that make a difference? host: diane is in julian, california, democrat. caller: how are you? i did not hear your question? host: we have been asking have your views changed? caller: the question is, it has strengthened my...
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mark kelly, the husband of former congresswoman gabrielle giffords, joins us next. and former adviser to the romney campaign, dan senor, is here. keep it right here on "morning joe." [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just served my mother-in-law your chicken noodle soup but she loved it so much... i told her it was homemade. everyone tells a little white lie now and then. but now she wants my recipe [ clears his throat ] [ softly ] she's right behind me isn't she? [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. in the middle of the night it can be frustrating. it's hard to turn off and go back to sleep. intermezzo is the first and only prescription sleep aid approved for use as needed in the middle of the night when you can't get back to sleep. it's an effective sleep medicine you don't take before bedtime. take it in bed only when you need it and have at least four hours left for sleep. do not take intermezzo if you have had an allergic reaction to drugs containing zolpidem, such as ambien. allergic reactions such as shortness of breath or swelling of you
mark kelly, the husband of former congresswoman gabrielle giffords, joins us next. and former adviser to the romney campaign, dan senor, is here. keep it right here on "morning joe." [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just served my mother-in-law your chicken noodle soup but she loved it so much... i told her it was homemade. everyone tells a little white lie now and then. but now she wants my recipe [ clears his throat ] [ softly ] she's right behind me isn't she? [ male announcer ]...
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gabby giffords, husband mark kelly. >> and that's the difference other victims are now speaking up, and to see gaggy yesterday and her husband by her side talking about this, these were strong nra supporters and yet they see what can be done. >> i think -- >> 20 dead first graders -- >> go ahead, ron. jifs going to say in closing, 20 dead first graders has a way of concentrating the mind. >> right. >> it's a serious conversation. it's an american conversation. thank you, congresswoman carolyn mccarthy of new york and ron reagan. >>> we have one more note about the epidemic of gun violence in this country. yesterday we told you about 15-year-oldh adia pendleton of chicago who was fate ideally shot in what may have been a gang turf war. after having performed in washington with her high school band for the inaugural music festival, it all happened since then, we learned in 2008 she was featured in a video speaking out against gun violence. here is part of that video. >> so many children are fearing gangs and it's your job as students to say no to gangs and yes to a great future. [ man ] v
gabby giffords, husband mark kelly. >> and that's the difference other victims are now speaking up, and to see gaggy yesterday and her husband by her side talking about this, these were strong nra supporters and yet they see what can be done. >> i think -- >> 20 dead first graders -- >> go ahead, ron. jifs going to say in closing, 20 dead first graders has a way of concentrating the mind. >> right. >> it's a serious conversation. it's an american...
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on the other side mark kelly, gabby giffords's husband former astronaut, and sheriff captain james johnson from baltimore county in full uniform. both kelly and johnson spoke about the need for background checks especially captain johnson saying -- telling the senator, stand with law enforcement. i'm here representing ah law enforcement officers across this country. we are out gunned today. we need the guns. people should not have easy access to them, stand with us for banning assault weapons. they have supported the feinstein bill and for background checks. but then the other side got up -- this woman gail trotter said that every mother needs an ak-15 in her home to protect her kids with all of the high-capacity magazines she can get. this guy coppel said you can't have background checks because then the government will know where every gun is and they will come to your door and seize them. and then wayne lapierre, their whole solution is let's make every school an armed camp. >> it's time to throw an immediate blanket of security around our children. about a third of our schools right no
on the other side mark kelly, gabby giffords's husband former astronaut, and sheriff captain james johnson from baltimore county in full uniform. both kelly and johnson spoke about the need for background checks especially captain johnson saying -- telling the senator, stand with law enforcement. i'm here representing ah law enforcement officers across this country. we are out gunned today. we need the guns. people should not have easy access to them, stand with us for banning assault weapons....
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americans are counting on you. >> giffords' husband, mark kelly, also testified. so did nra head juan wayne la p and also the chief of baltimore county, the chairman of the national law enforcement partnership to prevent gun violence. he joins us right now. chief, you are really on the front lines of this gun debate so i want to ask you, if you could get one thing, change one thing when it comes to guns and gun violence, what's the one measure you would choose? >> well, it's definitely going to be a universal background check. i think most in law enforcement would agree that a universal background check certainly would make it more difficult for people who are trying to get weapons, keep them out of their hands. in fact from 1994 to 2009, nearly two million prohibited purchases were stopped. so we know this is going to work. obviously increasing penalties for those who try to straw purchase for someone else, i really think this will ve a tremendous impact. >> so wayne la pierre of the nra doesn't agree with you. at the hearing yesterday he said that criminals will
americans are counting on you. >> giffords' husband, mark kelly, also testified. so did nra head juan wayne la p and also the chief of baltimore county, the chairman of the national law enforcement partnership to prevent gun violence. he joins us right now. chief, you are really on the front lines of this gun debate so i want to ask you, if you could get one thing, change one thing when it comes to guns and gun violence, what's the one measure you would choose? >> well, it's...
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giffords and her husband, mark kelly, made an emotional appeal to congress to expand background checks to gun shows and private sales. >> too many children are dying. too many children you must act. be bold. be courageous. >> my wife would not be sitting in this seat. she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> but the national rifle association chair, wayne lapierre, came out aggressively against background checks, arguing that the legislation which has the best chance in congress will do nothing to stem gun violence. >> my problem with background checks is you're never going to get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> we'll stop them from the original purchase. you miss that point completely. and i think it's basic. >> senator, i think you missed -- >> let there be order! >> and lapierre tried to turn the debate back on the administration. >> drug dealers with guns, gangs with guns, and felons with guns. they're simply not bei ining enforced. the numbers are shocking. in chicago, in one of the worst areas in the country for g
giffords and her husband, mark kelly, made an emotional appeal to congress to expand background checks to gun shows and private sales. >> too many children are dying. too many children you must act. be bold. be courageous. >> my wife would not be sitting in this seat. she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> but the national rifle association chair, wayne lapierre, came out aggressively against background checks, arguing that the...
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her husband, mark kelly, an nra ceo wayne lapierre also testified. this hearing is just under four hours. [no audio] >> we have more than 200 people here today and hundreds more watching on our committee web cast. i expect everybody in this room to be respectful of the senators and the witnesses speaking about this very serious subject. i do not want applause for or against any position. the capitol police have been notified to remove any audience interference in an effort to have orderly conduct for that. that is a warning i give the many hearings. we will hear a lot of perspective on gun violence. i will give opening statements. but we have a former member of congress here, gaby giffords who will give a brief message and believed and captain kelly, thank you for your help in bringing your wife here. ms. giffords - >> ok. thank you for inviting me here today. this is an important conversation for our children, for our communities, for democrats and republicans. speaking is difficult but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem. t
her husband, mark kelly, an nra ceo wayne lapierre also testified. this hearing is just under four hours. [no audio] >> we have more than 200 people here today and hundreds more watching on our committee web cast. i expect everybody in this room to be respectful of the senators and the witnesses speaking about this very serious subject. i do not want applause for or against any position. the capitol police have been notified to remove any audience interference in an effort to have orderly...
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former congresswoman gabrielle giffords and her husband captain mark kelly testified about the man who shot his wife in the head three years ago. >> the killer in the tucson shooting suffered from severe mental illness, but even after being deemed unqualified for service in the army an explulsion from pima community college he was never reported to mental health authorities. on november 30th of 2010 he walked into a sporting good store, passed a background check, and walked out with a semi automatic handgun. martha: boy, this is so central to the issue at hand right now, and is not getting the attention that it perhaps deserves. i'm joined by jonah goldberg editor at large for the national review, he's also a fox news contributor. and dr. keith ablow, a forensic psychiatrist. gentlemen, welcome. the fact that there is no intervention, that people are not reported to mental health, you know, administrators who could make some kind of judgment, perhaps, or enforce some kind of treatment is really none of these situations. if you go one by one would have happened if the gun didn't find it
former congresswoman gabrielle giffords and her husband captain mark kelly testified about the man who shot his wife in the head three years ago. >> the killer in the tucson shooting suffered from severe mental illness, but even after being deemed unqualified for service in the army an explulsion from pima community college he was never reported to mental health authorities. on november 30th of 2010 he walked into a sporting good store, passed a background check, and walked out with a...
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>>steve: mark kelly says he and his wife are gun owners who have no plans to give up their weapons. even though they did think about joining the n.r.a. so can there be a compromise? joining us is fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano. that's the question. can you adjust the laws as they are without changing the constitution? >> the people who support the second amendment, of which i am one, believe that an adjustment here, a tweaking there will open up the door way to more adjustments in the future and ultimately the government will be able to choose who carries guns. and one of the things that has kept the country free is fear in the back of the mind of someone who might try to become a tyrant that way out there are a lot of people who have the fire power to prevent tyranny here. so that's one argument. the other argument underlying the second amendment is that the decision to use a weapon to protect your life, your liberty, your children, your property is an individual decision and not a government decision. because it's an aspect of self-defense. and that's an
>>steve: mark kelly says he and his wife are gun owners who have no plans to give up their weapons. even though they did think about joining the n.r.a. so can there be a compromise? joining us is fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano. that's the question. can you adjust the laws as they are without changing the constitution? >> the people who support the second amendment, of which i am one, believe that an adjustment here, a tweaking there will open up the door...
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the former arizona congresswoman helped to the witness table by her husband, mark kelly. gifford spoke just 80 words during her time at the mike. she said too many children are dying because of gun violence. and she called on lawmakers to do something. >> it will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold. be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> after that, kelly argued for better background checks for gun buyers. meanwhile, the head of the nra, waip la pie wayne lapierre, was there as well. he said criminals would not be impacted by them because they do not undergo background checks. after the hearing, kelly and lapierre shook hands. >> strong disagreements. good to see they did shake hands. we disagree. we did so cordially and respectfully. >> what is the answer? what is the nra putting forth as the answer? >> security in schools, armed guards at their schools. that's their answer. the famous quote. the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. that is their stance. more guns, arm everybody. >> what about all the loopholes? gun sh
the former arizona congresswoman helped to the witness table by her husband, mark kelly. gifford spoke just 80 words during her time at the mike. she said too many children are dying because of gun violence. and she called on lawmakers to do something. >> it will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold. be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> after that, kelly argued for better background checks for gun buyers. meanwhile, the head of the nra, waip la pie wayne...